00:11:16 Benny Ng: Benny Ng from Los Angeles Pierce College, Cloudy 00:11:23 Yvonne Naungayan: Good morning, this is Yvonne from Great Basin College in Elko, Nevada. Overcast and a bit rainy here today. 00:11:27 Lauren Evans: Hi Everyone from Los Angeles Southwest College! 00:11:36 Tammy Boates: Tammy Boates, Hartnell College 00:11:39 Angela Campbell: Good afternoon All: Angela Campbell, Executive Director, Assessment, Strategy and Planning, HACC Central Pennsylvania's Community College 00:11:43 Susan Bonham: I respectfully acknowledge that I am joining today from snəw̓eyəɬ leləm̓/ Langara College in rainy Vancouver, Canada, which is located on the traditional unceded territories of the xʷməθkʷəy̓əm (Musqueam), Sḵwx̱wú7mesh (Squamish), and Sel̓íl̓witulh (Tsleil-Waututh) Nations. 00:11:55 Cheryl Pearson: Cheryl Pearson Los Angeles Valley College - cool and cloudy here today. 00:12:03 Allison Lujan: Allison Lujan Santa Ana College 00:12:07 Robert Cole: Hello all. I'm Robert Cole at Saint Louis University, St. Louis Mo. 00:12:16 Kathryn Taylor: Kathryn Taylor from Fresno City College 00:12:26 Jacqueline Singh: Hello from Indianapolis, Indiana 00:12:27 Natasha Randall: Hi all! Natasha Randall from Indiana University. 00:12:27 Andrea Zarate: From Andrea Zarate- Hartnell College- overcast- cloudy here 00:12:35 Ayman Gadalla: Good morning Ayman Gadalla / SAC 00:12:38 Amanda Taintor: Feel free to contribute to our conversation and ask questions via our padlet https://padlet.com/amandataintor/slo-talk-friday-may-5-2023-leyea65nsbet2p9t 00:12:40 Kiersti Ford: Hello everyone! Kiersti Ford from Fresno City College 00:12:41 Joanna Boeing: Joanna Boeing from Bridgewater State University 00:12:42 Jane Rosenthal Dieken: Jane Rosenthal Dieken. Assistant Dean for Program Development at Tseng College, Cal State Northridge 00:12:48 Daniella Graves: Good morning from Ventura, CA 00:12:51 Lisa Patterson: Hi, Lisa Patterson, Curriculum Librarian from St. Joseph's University, Patchogue, NY (partially cloudy) 00:12:55 Brianna Barker: Hey everyone! I'm Brianna Barker from Kishwaukee College in Malta, Illinois. 00:12:57 Anne Browning: Hi, I’m Anne browning at Maryville University in St. Louis MO 00:13:00 Tiffany Dumas: Hi! I'm Tiffany Dumas an ID from CSUN 00:13:08 Larissa Lindquist: Hello from Carlow University in Pittsburgh PA! 00:13:10 Jarek Janio, Santa Ana College: Good morning from Santa Ana College in rainy Southern California! 00:13:20 Sarah Chitwood: Hello all. Sarah Chitwood from Virginia Western Community College in Roanoke, VA. 00:14:38 Denise Kleinrichert: Good morning! Denise Kleinrichert, San Francisco State Univ. 00:14:52 Laura Dumin: Reacted to "Hello all. Sarah Chi…" with ❤️ 00:15:10 Dorota Hrycak-Krzyzanowska: Good evening! Dorota from PUNO, London 00:15:24 Amanda Taintor: Feel free to contribute to our conversation and ask questions via our padlet https://padlet.com/amandataintor/slo-talk-friday-may-5-2023-leyea65nsbet2p9t 00:15:29 Gioconda Quesada: Hello everyone from College of Charleston! 00:17:13 Mary Usufzy: Hi everyone, Mary Usufzy from Santa Ana college 00:17:23 Jarek Janio, Santa Ana College: Reacted to "Hi everyone, Mary Us..." with ❤️ 00:17:35 Sanghyun Jeon: hello, Sanghyun Jeon from Pomona College 00:17:46 Jarek Janio, Santa Ana College: Reacted to "Hello from Indianapo..." with ❤️ 00:18:55 Vincent Nunez: "Solving for unknowns" is a great 'nutshell' point for algebra! 00:19:04 Jarek Janio, Santa Ana College: Reacted to ""Solving for unknown..." with 👍🏻 00:19:20 Jarek Janio, Santa Ana College: Replying to ""Solving for unknown..." Seems like we take it for granted ... 00:19:24 Mary Usufzy: Reacted to ""Solving for unknown..." with 👍🏻 00:19:33 Benny Ng: Reacted to ""Solving for unknown..." with 👍🏻 00:19:35 Mary Usufzy: I agree, it's hard to get others excited about your subject when you've studied it for years 00:19:45 Jarek Janio, Santa Ana College: Reacted to "I agree, it's hard t..." with 👍🏻 00:20:06 Enrique Jauregui, Fresno City College: Yes the Friday SLO Talk will be recorded👍 00:20:30 Mary Richards: I teach Children’s Lit and often get nursing students in the class. 00:21:39 Amanda Taintor: Reacted to "I teach Children’s L..." with ❤️ 00:22:01 Yvonne Naungayan: For me it was Electronics, because I was fascinated by the practical application and constant discovery process, and there was a lot of hands-on learning 00:22:04 Amanda Taintor: Feel free to contribute to our conversation and ask questions via our padlet https://padlet.com/amandataintor/slo-talk-friday-may-5-2023-leyea65nsbet2p9t 00:23:05 Jarek Janio, Santa Ana College: Reacted to "For me it was Electr..." with 👍🏻 00:23:28 Mary Usufzy: Reacted to "Feel free to contrib..." with 👍 00:23:29 Jarek Janio, Santa Ana College: It's not the feeling! It's learning! Wow ... 00:23:40 Amanda Taintor: Reacted to "It's not the feeling..." with ❤️ 00:23:44 Mary Usufzy: Reacted to "It's not the feeling..." with ❤️ 00:25:19 Rosa Garcia: This seems like personality traits. 00:26:16 Jarek Janio, Santa Ana College: Yes! We are all unique! 00:26:51 Jarek Janio, Santa Ana College: If we are not teaching SLOs, what are we teaching? 00:27:01 Enrique Jauregui, Fresno City College: Reacted to "If we are not teachi..." with 👍 00:27:08 Benny Ng: Reacted to "If we are not teachi..." with 👍 00:27:08 Jarek Janio, Santa Ana College: If we are not assessing SLOs, what are we assessing? 00:27:14 Yvonne Naungayan: I love how this group always comes back to the learner being at the center of learning! 00:27:21 Jarek Janio, Santa Ana College: Reacted to "I love how this grou..." with ❤️ 00:27:36 Enrique Jauregui, Fresno City College: Reacted to "I love how this grou..." with 👍 00:28:52 Jarek Janio, Santa Ana College: Do not COVER the content. Teach the skills and competencies ... 00:28:54 Yvonne Naungayan: Reacted to "If we are not teachi..." with 👏 00:29:07 Yvonne Naungayan: Reacted to "If we are not assess..." with 👍 00:29:34 Amanda Taintor: and intentionally curate content that helps support reaching those skills and competencies. 00:29:36 Jarek Janio, Santa Ana College: Right, moving up on the Bloom's Taxonomy .... 00:29:45 Jarek Janio, Santa Ana College: Reacted to "and intentionally cu..." with 👍🏻 00:30:44 Jarek Janio, Santa Ana College: SLOs should motivate students! Thank you Gretchen! 00:31:01 Vincent Nunez: Reacted to "SLOs should motivate..." with 👍 00:33:02 Jarek Janio, Santa Ana College: This doesn't get old: Five Minute University: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c00GPvns31U&t=2s 00:33:05 Benny Ng: Reacted to "If we are not assess..." with 👍 00:34:04 Amanda Taintor: intentional intervention that targets the missing skills or compentencies! 00:34:19 Jarek Janio, Santa Ana College: Reacted to "intentional interven..." with 👍🏻 00:35:43 Jarek Janio, Santa Ana College: Guide to SLO Assessment: https://coaches.institute/guide-to-student-learning-assessment/ 00:35:52 Enrique Jauregui, Fresno City College: Reacted to "Guide to SLO Assessm..." with 👍 00:37:05 Vincent Nunez: Very nice 00:37:08 Vincent Nunez: Excellent 00:37:15 Denise Kleinrichert: Reacted to "Guide to SLO Assessm..." with 👍 00:37:17 Erin Ambrose: Thank you! 00:37:35 Elizabeth Viramontes: Great presetnation! Thank you! 00:37:35 Yvonne Naungayan: Thank you, Gretchen! 00:37:38 Kiersti Ford: Thank you, Gretchen! 00:37:38 Cindy Ramirez: Thank you, very useful information and engaging conversations in the chat :) 00:37:50 Chor Her: Thank you, Gretchen! 00:37:55 Jacqueline Singh: Syllabus is a kind of conceptual framework. It reveals concepts, SLO’s, the knowledge/skills/abilities (competencies) that students 00:37:57 Denise Kleinrichert: Thank you! 00:38:01 Benny Ng: Thank you, Gretchen! 00:38:04 Jacqueline Singh: students develop. 00:38:05 Tiffany Dumas: Thank you!! 00:38:10 Michelle Soltero: Thank you 00:38:17 Jacqueline Singh: Thank you, nice presentation. 00:38:22 Elizabeth Viramontes: Great Presentation! Thank you! 00:40:51 Enrique Jauregui, Fresno City College: GRADES do not ensure learning took place! 00:41:04 Cheryl Pearson: How do you get instructors to review/analyze SLOs to make improvements in outcomes? 00:41:26 Jarek Janio, Santa Ana College: Reacted to "GRADES do not ensure..." with ❤️ 00:41:35 Jarek Janio, Santa Ana College: Reacted to "How do you get instr..." with 👍🏻 00:41:38 Brandy Jenner: Reacted to "How do you get instr..." with 💛 00:41:50 Jarek Janio, Santa Ana College: Replying to "How do you get instr..." https://coaches.institute/guide-to-student-learning-assessment/ 00:42:32 Rosa Garcia: Reacted to "https://coaches.in..." with 😮 00:42:51 Rosa Garcia: Reacted to "Guide to SLO Asses..." with 👍 00:43:01 Rosa Garcia: Reacted to "Feel free to contr..." with 👍 00:45:21 Cheryl Pearson: Reacted to "https://coaches.inst..." with 👍🏻 00:50:44 Enrique Jauregui, Fresno City College: Will AI take over or assist Student's Learning? 00:51:13 Jarek Janio, Santa Ana College: Reacted to "Will AI take over or..." with 👍🏻 00:51:18 Vincent Nunez: Reacted to "Will AI take over or..." with 😅 00:52:04 Jarek Janio, Santa Ana College: Replying to "Will AI take over or..." Have you heard of KhanAmigo? Personal tutor for everyone: https://support.khanacademy.org/hc/en-us/community/posts/13992414612877-Introducing-Khanmigo- 00:52:13 Vincent Nunez: Are any of them real? The background seems to skew them all strange... 00:52:22 Benny Ng: Reacted to "Are any of them real..." with 👍🏻 00:52:37 Layli Liss: Reacted to "Are any of them real..." with 👍🏻 00:52:39 Jamie Batts: Replying to "Will AI take over or..." I watched his TED talk, Im impressed! 00:55:18 Jarek Janio, Santa Ana College: Replying to "Will AI take over or..." I am looking forward to the day when it starts speaking like a human being with an avatar on the screen. 00:55:34 Amanda Taintor: Replying to "Will AI take over or..." I give it 5 months :) 00:55:47 Rosa Garcia: Reacted to "I am looking forwa..." with 😮 00:55:53 Elizabeth Viramontes: Reacted to "Are any of them real..." with 👍🏻 00:56:07 Rosa Garcia: Reacted to "I give it 5 months..." with 🤯 00:57:29 Enrique Jauregui, Fresno City College: @James, was this PP was generated by AI? beautiful presentation! 00:57:40 Brandy Jenner: Reacted to "@James, was this PP ..." with 😅 00:58:07 Rosa Garcia: Reacted to "@James, was this P..." with 😮 00:58:20 Jarek Janio, Santa Ana College: Replying to "Will AI take over or..." @Amanda Taintor, so what will teachers do? I just read this morning about writers' strike: https://www.npr.org/2023/05/04/1173991667/wga-writers-strike-best-signs 00:58:50 Amanda Taintor: Replying to "Will AI take over or..." It's a whole new world. We are making the trail as we walk down it. 00:59:32 Rosa Garcia: Reacted to "It's a whole new w..." with 😱 00:59:44 Vincent Nunez: Totally subjective aside: maybe the word 'PRO MPT' has extra resonance for anyone who spent lots of time playing text adventures growing up. (Like me.) When I use ChatGPT I sort of feel like I'm on one of those choose-your-path adventure again. What I think about, too, is how much my choices are essential to what's going on 'inside the black box.' Back then the text parser was primitive, now it's nearly inconceivably sophisticated. And yet. There still seems to be less 'forgiveness' than perhaps it appears? 01:00:03 Susan Bonham: Privacy, energy use 01:00:09 Cindy Ramirez: lack of critical thinkings skills, no learning, privacy 01:00:11 Ophera A Davis PhD: Control 01:00:12 Erin Ambrose: plagiarism on papers 01:00:18 Andrea Zarate: from Andrea- ethics 01:00:19 Brandy Jenner: A bit of a panic about AI taking jobs and changing the world of work 01:00:20 Amanda Taintor: Feel free to contribute to our conversation and ask questions via our padlet https://padlet.com/amandataintor/slo-talk-friday-may-5-2023-leyea65nsbet2p9t 01:00:30 Kenadi Le: hacking it to get information that can harm others 01:00:35 Robert Cole: dis/mis information via purposed manipulation 01:00:52 Denise Kleinrichert: Increasing difficulty in giving student written homework that is NOT Chat GPT copied 01:00:58 Mary Richards: Replying to "@James, was this PP ..." The presentation was not AI generated, but it did come up with the title, and when we proposed it to the conference at which we met Amanda, we submitted a proposal generated by AI — and acknowledged that in our submission. 01:01:12 Enrique Jauregui, Fresno City College: In the future, are some teachers loosing their jobs? 01:01:12 Deborah Stephens: The original creators of the content used to train AI aren't being compensated 01:01:28 Brandy Jenner: Reacted to "The presentation was..." with 😮 01:01:32 Rupali Mukherjee: My fear is that we may end up with an idle generation of learners in the future who may be digitally savvy but may lack content knowledge and creativity. 01:01:48 Jarek Janio, Santa Ana College: Reacted to "My fear is that we m..." with 👍🏻 01:02:06 Amanda Taintor: Reacted to "The original creator..." with ❤️ 01:02:17 Jarek Janio, Santa Ana College: Replying to "My fear is that we m..." Indeed, Rupali. Asking questions of AI still requires a skill 01:02:29 Rupali Mukherjee: Reacted to "Indeed, Rupali. Aski..." with 👍 01:02:34 Jarek Janio, Santa Ana College: Reacted to "In the future, are s..." with ❓ 01:03:35 Kenadi Le: Reacted to "Indeed, Rupali. Aski..." with 👍 01:03:39 Mary Richards: Replying to "Will AI take over or..." Neil Gaiman posted the actual negotiations between the writers’ union and management, and the writers particularly asked to ban AI-generated scripts. Management said they were open to annual discussions about the evolution of the technology, but refused to ban scripts written by AI. 01:04:04 Ophera A Davis PhD: ? How does AI relays to: Music copyright 01:04:21 Rupali Mukherjee: Replying to "My fear is that we m..." That's true, but if students only need to know how to ask questions and not know how to answer questions creatively, then over time they will lose creativity, which is a great skill to have. 01:04:30 Rosa Garcia: Reacted to "In the future, are..." with 😮 01:05:01 Brandy Jenner: Replying to "My fear is that we m..." I wish we were training AI to complete drudgery rather than creativity 🙁 01:05:12 Diana Han: Reacted to "My fear is that we m…" with 👍🏻 01:05:26 Jarek Janio, Santa Ana College: Replying to "Will AI take over or..." What can you do? How can you tell if text has been created with AI? 01:05:46 Mary Richards: Replying to "? How does AI relays..." Copyright law has not had time to catch up yet. OpenAI (the company behind ChatGPT) states that the user inputting the prompt owns the output given in response to that prompt. 01:06:02 Rosa Garcia: Reacted to "Childhood trauma(1..." with 👍 01:06:39 Mary Richards: Replying to "Will AI take over or..." The bottom line is that there is no definitive way to determine this at this time. That may change in the future. The AI detectors are not foolproof. They can produce false positives. 01:07:25 Jarek Janio, Santa Ana College: Replying to "? How does AI relays..." So there ... Makes sense to me. 01:08:10 Rupali Mukherjee: Replying to "? How does AI relays..." @Mary Richards 01:08:37 Jarek Janio, Santa Ana College: So here's the danger, right? https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/29/us/ai-scam-calls-kidnapping-cec/index.html 01:08:39 Rosa Garcia: Skeptical culture will emerge. 01:09:08 Rupali Mukherjee: Replying to "? How does AI relays..." Wonder if AI can cite the sources it uses to create materials and can produce it if asked. 01:09:29 Amanda Taintor: Reacted to "Skeptical culture wi..." with 👍🏼 01:10:45 Deborah Stephens: A local library has already had requests for articles in their repository that don't exist 01:11:02 Jarek Janio, Santa Ana College: I still believe that even though something is plausible, it is the user's responsibility to check whether the text generated by AI is correct and aligned to the user's intent. 01:11:18 Rupali Mukherjee: Reacted to "I still believe that..." with 👍 01:11:30 Tiffany Dumas: wow 01:11:32 Vincent Nunez: I think it's the neck as well. 01:11:44 Vincent Nunez: Plane of the face and the neck. 01:11:49 Amanda Taintor: Replying to "I think it's the nec..." no neck wrinkles! 01:12:01 Jarek Janio, Santa Ana College: Reacted to "no neck wrinkles!" with 👍🏻 01:12:04 Rupali Mukherjee: Reacted to "no neck wrinkles!" with 👍🏻 01:12:08 Vincent Nunez: Replying to "I think it's the nec..." Ha! 01:12:11 Ophera A Davis PhD: ? About language: Why use hallucination rather than the word fake 01:12:13 Jarek Janio, Santa Ana College: Replying to "I think it's the nec..." That's how we can always tell! 01:12:36 Cindy Ramirez: Reacted to "? About language: Wh..." with 👍🏽 01:13:12 Rupali Mukherjee: Replying to "I think it's the nec..." @Amanda Taintor - The pictures are too perfect to be true. 01:13:43 Enrique Jauregui, Fresno City College: Is Amanda currently using an AI human avatar for this Friday SLO Talk? 01:13:45 Amanda Taintor: Such a powerful reminder! That was a great slide! 01:14:01 Amanda Taintor: Replying to "Is Amanda currently ..." the neck wrinkles state otherwise. 01:14:06 Jarek Janio, Santa Ana College: Reacted to "Such a powerful remi..." with 👍🏻 01:14:13 Enrique Jauregui, Fresno City College: Reacted to "Is Amanda currently ..." with 🤣 01:14:25 Laura Dumin: Replying to "? About language: Wh..." That is the word that has been used for a long time. There is another word that people have come up with, but I can't remember it. I think it starts with a 'c' 01:14:25 Ophera A Davis PhD: ? Is chatgp another wiki 01:14:50 Mary Richards: Replying to "? About language: Wh..." It is a term being used by AI developers to describe the AI’s tendency to create “fictional” responses to prompts requesting facts. 01:14:59 Rupali Mukherjee: Reacted to "? About language: Wh..." with 👍🏽 01:15:53 Cindy Ramirez: Reacted to "It is a term being u..." with 👍🏽 01:16:01 Amanda Taintor: Not going to lie. This part freaks me out a bit. 01:16:11 Mary Richards: Replying to "? Is chatgp another ..." No, it is not. James could probably better explain the distinction, but there are not humans generating the responses to the prompts that people input into the AI. They are machine-generated. There are humans behind the training of the AIs, however. 01:16:20 Amanda Taintor: I think of when Barbie dream house tries to kill Ken because it had a crush on Barbie. 01:16:25 Enrique Jauregui, Fresno City College: Reacted to "Not going to lie. Th..." with 🧐 01:16:50 Jarek Janio, Santa Ana College: Reacted to "I think of when Barb..." with 😂 01:17:33 Vincent Nunez: I'm in favor of bracketing / undercutting the label 'intelligence' more often than perhaps we do. I know 'AI' is quick and easy to say, but shouldn't we be as quick to bring out the scare quotes? It really doesn't seem to be the right word, even when we connect 'artificial' to it. I am following Jaron Lanier here: https://www.newyorker.com/science/annals-of-artificial-intelligence/there-is-no-ai How about we more often apply that more descriptive term 'generative model'? Yet I realize we're talking about more than chat interfaces, and that there's a historical context for the discussion. Still. I think we should listen to how students are hearing the term. Intelligence, too, has been problematic already, no? (Wow my brain is in a vortex here!) 01:18:21 Ophera A Davis PhD: ?What are your thoughts as experts on - why another bias tool was released to the public ( other than $) to generate a bias fake news source in this political environment? 01:18:26 Vincent Nunez: Thank you! 01:18:35 Denise Kleinrichert: Thank you! 01:18:40 Cindy Ramirez: Wow. Thank you. Great presentation. 01:18:47 Michelle Soltero: Thank you. 01:19:03 Jarek Janio, Santa Ana College: Vincent, I think I have an answer for you: if AI is meant to harm, it's not intelligent anymore. What say you? 01:19:18 Andrea Barrios: This is a great presentation! Thank you for all the information provided. 01:19:53 Lori Levine: Did she ever answer who owns the content? 01:20:23 Amanda Taintor: Replying to "Did she ever answer ..." Yes, let me find it in the chat. 01:20:29 Amanda Taintor: Reacted to "This is a great pres..." with ❤️ 01:20:33 Jarek Janio, Santa Ana College: Replying to "Vincent, I think I h..." I am afraid that if we change the name to exclude intelligence, then we are in the world of endless, quite evil possibilities. 01:20:53 Lori Levine: Replying to "Did she ever answer ..." I didn't hear her say anything about that. 01:20:54 Denise Kleinrichert: My question as well - preventing cheating, plagiarism… 01:21:04 Ophera A Davis PhD: ? Do you have any data on who the large percentage of New AI subscribers are by social income? 01:21:46 Jarek Janio, Santa Ana College: Replying to "?What are your thoug..." Don't blame the tool, blame the user. Fake news was around for ever. AI makes it easier, but we all have to learn how to question reality, rather than follow what sounds good 01:22:07 Amanda Taintor: Reacted to "Vincent, I think I h..." with ❤️ 01:22:12 Rupali Mukherjee: Reacted to "Don't blame the tool..." with 👍 01:22:18 Ophera A Davis PhD: Reacted to "It is a term being u..." with 👍🏽 01:22:30 Kenadi Le: Reacted to "Don't blame the tool..." with 👍 01:23:09 Lori Levine: But not everyone has the same access to the tool--some kids don't have good internet at home. 01:23:35 Ophera A Davis PhD: Will we have a chance to ask questions to the AI presenters? They were both fantastic 👏 01:23:36 Alexis Brown (she/her): Reacted to "I think of when Barb..." with 😂 01:23:46 Enrique Jauregui, Fresno City College: I just asked ChatGPT the question. Answer: ChatGPT is not owned by any individual or entity. It is a language model developed by OpenAI, an artificial intelligence research laboratory consisting of a team of researchers, engineers, and scientists. OpenAI is governed by a board of directors and is committed to advancing AI in a safe and beneficial manner for society. 01:24:29 Alexis Brown (she/her): Reacted to "I'm in favor of brac..." with 👏 01:24:49 Amanda Taintor: Replying to "Will we have a chanc..." Yes! They have worked time into their presentation for questions at the end. 01:25:01 Laura Dumin: Reacted to "But not everyone has..." with 👍 01:25:12 Jarek Janio, Santa Ana College: Replying to "But not everyone has..." Absolutely! This has always been a topic of our discussions. Equity is the name of the game! 01:25:35 Jarek Janio, Santa Ana College: Reacted to "I just asked ChatGPT..." with 👍🏻 01:25:42 Alexis Brown (she/her): Replying to "Did she ever answer ..." OpenAI says you own the generated content. 01:25:42 Lori Levine: Replying to "I just asked ChatGPT..." That's great, but did the speaker answer her comment about who owns the material if someone puts in the prompt and ChatGPT generates the answer? Is that cheating? Plagiarism? What do we think about this? I personally think it can be cheating. 01:25:57 Jarek Janio, Santa Ana College: Very critical consumers? Why isn't that concept promoted WIDELY? 01:26:05 Jarek Janio, Santa Ana College: Excellent point! 01:26:10 Amanda Taintor: Reacted to "OpenAI says you own ..." with 👍🏼 01:26:31 Lori Levine: Replying to "Did she ever answer ..." @Alexis Brown (she/her) So it's not cheating? Is OpenAI the people behind it or the tool itself? 01:27:03 Brandy Jenner: AI can give you a decent start on a rubric as well! 01:27:14 Rupali Mukherjee: I like the aspect of AI the presenter just mentioned. It can help us create equity by providing one-on-one tutoring to all students regardless of their economic backgrounds and affordability to hire private tutors. 01:27:32 Brandy Jenner: Reacted to "I like the aspect of..." with 💛 01:27:48 Gretchen Ezaki: Replying to "Will we have a chanc..." The last 2 semesters I used a discussion board program that uses AI. It is designed to push students to make application instead of content posts. I worked better than I ever expected! 01:28:09 Enrique Jauregui, Fresno City College: Are we consumers of an AI input/output informational environment? 01:28:14 Lori Levine: Replying to "Did she ever answer ..." @Alexis Brown (she/her) So basically, my student can put in my prompt, get a paper that was written in 5 seconds, and say it's their work? So not cheating even though the student didn't write the paper? 01:28:38 Vincent Nunez: Replying to "Vincent, I think I h..." I'm not sure about bringing good/evil into considering only the one label -- again, intelligence has a complicated history, right? I'm no psychometrician -- I'm proposing that 'AI' is too ready-made, self-enclosed, and resisting of criticism. It makes its own 'black box' contrasted with 'generative model' which is what I'd prefer, it I had the magic wand to wave. 01:28:41 Alexis Brown (she/her): Replying to "? Do you have any da..." I have not yet found a comprehensive breakdown of this. If someone else has, let me know 😄 01:28:43 Rupali Mukherjee: Grading is often subjective. AI is perhaps a tough grader. 01:29:50 Jarek Janio, Santa Ana College: Reacted to "Grading is often sub..." with 👍🏻 01:30:28 Brandy Jenner: Interesting about how the AI is a hard grader. How about this: if a student users AI to write a paper, then it gets graded by AI as well 😅 but I’ll grade it if they write it themselves! 01:31:12 Jarek Janio, Santa Ana College: AI says that the user owns the content! 01:31:35 Alexis Brown (she/her): Replying to "?What are your thoug..." I would also say that the excitement over the high number of use cases outweighed the difficulty of earnestly addressing bias and one of the criticisms of it’s public release. 01:31:46 Jarek Janio, Santa Ana College: Which is true! When I type 7 + 8 on a calculator, I own the answer to that question. Who else? 01:32:01 Enrique Jauregui, Fresno City College: Reacted to "Which is true! When ..." with 🤣 01:32:14 Layli Liss: I'm interested in seeing academic integrity statements - if others could share theirs, I'd be grateful. 01:32:22 Rupali Mukherjee: College students often go to "Evaluate My Professor" type websites to see which professor is an easy grader and choose classes taught by instructors who are not tough graders, so my guess is that Chat GPT may not have students in class if it teaches a class independently sometime in the future. 01:32:36 Alexis Brown (she/her): Replying to "I just asked ChatGPT..." In a learning environment, I consider it cheating/plagiarism but as we develop ways to incorporate it, that will shift. 01:32:36 Jarek Janio, Santa Ana College: Replying to "Which is true! When ..." AI is a tool, like many others 01:33:14 Jarek Janio, Santa Ana College: Replying to "I just asked ChatGPT..." Well, just like hiring someone to write a paper a book for me, right? 01:33:17 Alexis Brown (she/her): Reacted to "Grading is often sub..." with 👍🏻 01:33:50 Rupali Mukherjee: Reacted to "Well, just like hiri..." with 👍 01:34:10 Shawn Lanier: Will they allow Chatgpt to rewrite its own code? Also why not allow it to train on more robust data such as the Arxiv? 01:34:56 Lori Levine: Replying to "I just asked ChatGPT..." @Alexis Brown (she/her) Thanks. 01:35:06 Rupali Mukherjee: Replying to "I just asked ChatGPT..." Yes, there are human Chat GPTs. All you need to do is to pay them, and they will write your paper. 01:35:31 Susan Bonham: Does Turnitin in the US allow students to opt out? In Canada, only the institution can ask for a student’s work to be removed from the database — the student can’t. 01:36:24 Jarek Janio, Santa Ana College: Replying to "Does Turnitin in the..." So the institution takes ownership of student work? 01:38:30 Susan Bonham: Replying to "Does Turnitin in the..." Technically, no. It hasn’t been tested in court, but there is a famous legal opinion that the student retains copyright and they *technically* should be consenting to their work being submitted. However, they can’t have it removed once it’s been saved to the Turnitin database. 01:39:25 Vincent Nunez: Maybe we will need a wide AI-Detox to follow the rising fixations and dependencies. Yet hey, I'm all for the adventure we're on right now. 01:39:37 Amanda Taintor: Replying to "Does Turnitin in the..." Feel free to contribute to our conversation and ask questions via our padlet https://padlet.com/amandataintor/slo-talk-friday-may-5-2023-leyea65nsbet2p9t 01:39:47 Amanda Taintor: Feel free to contribute to our conversation and ask questions via our padlet https://padlet.com/amandataintor/slo-talk-friday-may-5-2023-leyea65nsbet2p9t 01:40:19 Yvonne Naungayan: Deepfake examples: https://www.creativebloq.com/features/deepfake-examples 01:40:20 Lori Levine: Will the links be provided? 01:40:44 Jarek Janio, Santa Ana College: Reacted to "Will the links be pr..." with 👍🏻 01:40:47 Tiffany Dumas: Reacted to "Will the links be pr..." with 👍🏻 01:41:40 Vincent Nunez: Great question. 01:41:46 Jarek Janio, Santa Ana College: Reacted to "Great question." with 👍🏻 01:42:20 Jarek Janio, Santa Ana College: KhanAmigo asks for donations and it currently makes its content available via a wait list 01:43:46 Brandy Jenner: Love this — everything old is new again. Maybe a new era of individual tuition and oral assessment? 01:44:16 Che Meneses: @all great to be here, happy Cinco de Mayo! 01:44:17 Jarek Janio, Santa Ana College: Replying to "Love this — everythi..." Yes! Students will learn content at home with an AI tutor and go to school to be assessed 01:44:29 Jarek Janio, Santa Ana College: Reacted to "Yes! Students will l..." with 👍🏻 01:44:48 Vincent Nunez: Reacted to "I wish we were train..." with 👍 01:44:49 Yvonne Naungayan: Reacted to "@all great to be her..." with 👍 01:45:20 Che Meneses: pedagogy and curriculum design that Synthesizes each student’s narrative with the course content is key. I.e supporting and encouraging students to insert their original ideas, thoughts and creativity with the subject matter is integral regarding assessment 01:45:32 Jarek Janio, Santa Ana College: Reacted to "@all great to be her..." with 👍🏻 01:45:33 Brandy Jenner: Reacted to "pedagogy and curricu..." with 💛 01:45:45 Amanda Taintor: Reacted to "pedagogy and curricu..." with ❤️ 01:46:17 Rupali Mukherjee: My daughter's college professors are giving all their assessments strictly on campus. 01:46:25 Jarek Janio, Santa Ana College: Reacted to "My daughter's colleg..." with 👍🏻 01:46:45 Deborah Stephens: In person assessment is challenging for distance ed 01:46:47 Lori Levine: I have students write and they are mostly fine with that. Some gripe, but they will do it. Often, I'll have them do a 5 to 10 minute freewrite in class. 01:47:01 Rupali Mukherjee: They have put an end to all remote testing. 01:47:43 Che Meneses: Regarding assessment, curriculum design and evolution of education, I consider: How are we as instructors, particularly of GE classes, providing students with a ‘taste’ of what it’s like to think like a Biologist, Anthropologist, Creative Writer, Public Speaker etc what key maxims / Learning Outcomes / Skills from our courses will help students become the best version of their academic, professional and personal selves 01:48:39 Lori Levine: Replying to "I have students writ..." I'm not saying that all writing should be done in class, but to say they can't handwrite is very limiting. 01:48:52 Vincent Nunez: Replying to "Love this — everythi..." Intriguing!.. If oral assessment, though, we could also do that over distance, right? 01:49:02 Che Meneses: encouraging, challenging and supporting students in identifying what they find useful, joyful and meaningful with our course content is key it’s the spark that leads to ‘Active Learning’ #NeuroscienceIsKey 01:49:09 Vincent Nunez: Replying to "Love this — everythi..." Especially if individualized. 01:49:11 Amanda Taintor: Reacted to "encouraging, challen..." with ❤️ 01:49:17 Laura Dumin: Reacted to "encouraging, challen..." with ❤️ 01:49:27 Brandy Jenner: Reacted to "Intriguing!.. If ora..." with 👍 01:50:23 Che Meneses: Student Podcasts and Podcast Outlines as assessment are also extremely useful for oral-based students, particularly with the critical thinking skills of Analysis, Synthesis, Forecasting & Reflection 01:50:26 Amanda Taintor: Replying to "Love this — everythi..." I love oral assessment as an option when it's a good fit for the discipline. I work closely with a math instructor who teaches advanced math and thus needs to support students in writing math BUT also looks at ways to incorporate oral assessment as an option. 01:51:05 Vincent Nunez: Replying to "Love this — everythi..." Math and tablets seem a good match.. 01:51:06 Che Meneses: Plus Podcasts are excellent portfolio / resume pieces for students. Active Learning & Podcasting are complementary 01:51:18 Coral Bender: Reacted to "Plus Podcasts are ex..." with ❤️ 01:51:28 Jarek Janio, Santa Ana College: Absolutely! How do we make students love the topic they study! Make it relevant! Go Gretchen! 01:51:40 Mary Richards: Reacted to "Plus Podcasts are ex..." with ❤️ 01:51:41 Rupali Mukherjee: Reacted to "Absolutely! How do w..." with 👍 01:52:08 Jarek Janio, Santa Ana College: Investigators rather than instructors! 01:52:11 Rosa Garcia: Is there a way to download the Meeting Chat or will it be in the recording? 01:52:27 Mary Richards: Reacted to "Investigators rather..." with ❤️ 01:52:29 Jarek Janio, Santa Ana College: Replying to "Is there a way to do..." It's a separate file. I will publish it 01:52:46 Rosa Garcia: Reacted to "It's a separate fi..." with 👍 01:52:48 Rupali Mukherjee: Reacted to "pedagogy and curricu..." with ❤️ 01:53:09 Jarek Janio, Santa Ana College: Reacted to "Plus Podcasts are ex..." with ❤️ 01:53:30 Brandy Jenner: Thanks so much all! 01:53:44 Mary Richards: Reacted to "In person assessment..." with ❤️ 01:54:06 Lori Levine: What is the tool @Gretchen? 01:54:15 Benny Ng: Reacted to "What is the tool @Gr..." with ❤️ 01:54:34 Alexis Brown (she/her): I’m wondering if it was Backpack? Packback? 01:54:43 Amanda Taintor: Reacted to "I’m wondering if it ..." with 👍🏼 01:54:53 Jarek Janio, Santa Ana College: https://app.packback.co/login 01:55:43 Che Meneses: The metacognitive dimensions of learning is part of the ‘push back’ to ChatGP / algorithm-based course content Continuously asking ourselves and students ‘What is our Why?’ What is the value of this course material’ ‘Why are we spending our valuable time and $ studying, learning about and understanding this content’ Making Learning about learning and centering our holistic intellectual growth humanizes the Teacher - Student Relationship while inviting the Culturally Responsive elements of learning and teaching 01:56:21 Amanda Taintor: Replying to "The metacognitive di..." Very well said Che! 01:56:22 Gretchen Ezaki: the discussion board program I've trialed and really liked is called Packback discussion questions 01:56:26 Alexis Brown (she/her): Reacted to "The metacognitive di..." with 👏🏽 01:56:52 Mary Richards: Replying to "pedagogy and curricu..." I give students assignments such as the I-search essay that has them discuss why they have chosen a topic, what experience they have with it, what they want to know about it, how they plan to find the answers, and what their preliminary research shows. I assumed this would be relatively plagiarism-proof as students are writing out of their own experiences. I put my assignment sheet into ChatGPT and asked it to produce a response as if it were a student. It did so in about two minutes, complete with an entirely fictional narrative that responded to prompt more than adequately. Generative AI can create self-reflection and personal experience out of thin air. 01:56:53 Che Meneses: The Efficacy of Podcasting Technology in Instructional Delivery https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Shawn-Mccombs/publication/268337578_The_Efficacy_of_Podcasting_Technology_in_Instructional_Delivery/links/55ccc15f08aecae56cc1c2e2/The-Efficacy-of-Podcasting-Technology-in-Instructional-Delivery.pdf 01:57:04 Vincent Nunez: Reacted to "The metacognitive di..." with 😎 01:58:36 Jarek Janio, Santa Ana College: Haiku generated by AI, just right now: Petals dance with joy, Drinking from the crystal stream, Spring's embrace unfolds. 01:59:07 Rupali Mukherjee: Reacted to "Haiku generated by A..." with 👍 01:59:07 Amanda Taintor: I would love to see those statements! 01:59:15 Jarek Janio, Santa Ana College: Reacted to "I would love to see ..." with 👍🏻 01:59:50 Rupali Mukherjee: Replying to "Haiku generated by A..." Not bad at all for a Haiku! No rhyming at all! 01:59:55 Amanda Taintor: Replying to "Haiku generated by A..." scary how good that is. 02:00:10 Rupali Mukherjee: Reacted to "scary how good that ..." with 👍 02:00:21 Alexis Brown (she/her): https://ctal.udel.edu/advanced-automated-tools/ 02:01:09 Amanda Taintor: interesting thought. If we "ban" students from using AI, is it fair to "ban" instructors from using it? 02:02:08 Jarek Janio, Santa Ana College: We won't be thinking about plagiarism at all ... 02:02:52 Che Meneses: @Mary Richards yes! understanding the evolution of Authorship in the digital / AI era is integral Information Literacy as Institutional and Program Learning Outcomes is super super important 02:02:54 Mary Usufzy: Reacted to "Haiku generated by A..." with 👍 02:03:08 Jarek Janio, Santa Ana College: Reacted to "@Mary Richards yes! ..." with 👍🏻 02:03:40 Mary Richards: Reacted to "The metacognitive di..." with ❤️ 02:04:03 Rupali Mukherjee: Reacted to "interesting thought...." with 👍 02:04:10 Mary Richards: Reacted to "interesting thought...." with 👍 02:04:16 Mary Richards: Reacted to "We won't be thinking..." with 👍 02:04:29 Mary Richards: Reacted to "@Mary Richards yes! ..." with ❤️ 02:05:32 Yvonne Naungayan: Reacted to "scary how good that ..." with 👍 02:07:13 Jarek Janio, Santa Ana College: We need to embrace it or someone or something will do it for us 02:07:15 Yvonne Naungayan: Replying to "Haiku generated by A..." I would not have known a student did not write that themselves (depending on the student, of course, which is a whole 'nother rabbit hole of subjectivity...) 02:07:27 Alexis Brown (she/her): Reacted to "I would not have kno..." with 👏🏽 02:08:14 Vincent Nunez: Thanks a lot! 02:08:22 Cheryl Pearson: Thank you! 02:08:43 Lisa Patterson: Thank-you for an excellent presentation! 02:08:43 Rupali Mukherjee: Replying to "Haiku generated by A..." "Complementing growth" sounds great to me. 02:08:45 Jacqueline Singh: Enjoyed this—very helpful! 02:08:46 Jane Rosenthal Dieken: "Prompt engineering” is a growing field right now 02:08:46 Denise Kleinrichert: Thank you for a great morning discussion! 02:08:51 Che Meneses: By the way Professor Dianosopolous at SDSU ended up changing the online policy for papers the next day 🙂 02:09:02 Michelle Soltero: Thank you so much. 02:09:03 Vincent Nunez: Reacted to "By the way Professor..." with 👍 02:09:06 Vincent Nunez: Cheers!